Huh. So DC is scrapping its entire line and relaunching from scratch, to bring their characters into the present. Fifty books will relaunch with all-new #1s including a new Justice League composed once again of the big guns. So... basically this whole year has been time-biding bullshit. The terrible Wonder Woman relaunch, the failed Superman walking across America story, the JLA composed of former sidekicks and Z-listers... just a waste of time and money. Awesome.
Jim Lee, the designer of the REVILED pants and jacket Wonder Woman suit has been tasked with redesigning EVERYONE to make them more current... because it worked so well last time! Let's just start off with the biggest "Fuck You," he changed Superman's S shield. Fuck you, asshole. You don't do that. They described these changes as making the heroes more recognizable. Well, one in every five guys has the REAL S Shield tattooed to his bicep. I'd say that's pretty fucking recognizable. It's probably either right behind the Nike Swoosh or possibly even ahead of it as the most recognizable logo in the world!
He also ditched the "classic" shorts over tights look. I can only shake my head at that. I know it may seem silly, but that's what super heroes are SUPPOSED to wear!
I can see already he hasn't backed down on Wonder Woman and only tweaked the much hated pants costume, removing the SENSIBLE shoulder straps, as well as those ridiculous arm straps, in favor of upper arm bracers. He also swapped out all the gold on her costume for silver, which no one is gonna fucking like, so get ready for that. The tiara is the same. The bodice is very similar and she's still wearing pants... which might not be THAT bad. I'll have to wait and see.
And I guess priest collars are the new black in super suits. Guess there was a sale at Steinmart.
More as it's revealed!
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
Monday, May 30, 2011
MANic Monday - I Probably Shouldn't Buuuuut...
Sunday, May 29, 2011
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Which Avengers Will They Add In The Sequel?
This is a follow-up to yesterday's blog where I discussed, what is currently just a rumor, that Thanos will be the villain in the Avengers movie. Like I said, I doubt this movie will include Loki, The Skrulls AND Thanos all in one story, so my guess is that Thanos will just pop up at the end and tease the sequel. And as I also said, The Avengers are gonna have to do some recruiting to stop him, because Hawkeye and Black Widow are toast. So who should join the team in the sequel? Here are some picks...
The most controversial omission, is of course The Wasp, Janet Van Dyne, one of two founders in the comics that are left out of the movie. Jan's been a constant on the team over the years and even led them. There's really no reason she should have been completely left out and I'm sure the producers will make it up in the sequel. They'd better!
And of course, The Wasp was, in the beginning, the partner of Ant-Man, Hank Pym. There have been constant talk of an Ant-Man movie. Maybe it'll come out after Avengers and lead into his (and The Wasp's) addition to the team in the second movie.
Keep in mind, Hank also used his size-changing powers to become Giant-Man. In case two tiny heroes are too much.
Powerhouse Ms. Marvel gained her powers from the alien Kree, the galactic mortal enemies of The Skrulls. If The Skrulls are in Avengers, couldn't The Kree easily pop up in the sequel?
And Captain Marvel a.k.a. Photon also gained her powers from an alien source. Her energy powers would look fantastic onscreen and would certainly come in handy against a nearly all-powerful alien god!
Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch... okay, not much to do with Thanos or aliens in general, but the mutant speedster and mistress of probability were two of the earliest recruits in the comics and Scarlet Witch in particular has remained a constant on the team over the years. It would be a shame to induct later members before these two stalwarts.
The same goes for SW's husband (ex?), The Vision, who has also been a constant on the team over the years. He doesn't have any specific ties to Thanos, but he SHOULD be in the movies. He and Hank Pym DO have ties to another big Avengers baddie, Ultron... maybe a sequel will feature him. Hmmm?
Black Panther... okay, not going to be very useful against Thanos. He falls in the same category as Black Widow and Hawkeye in terms of power, but like with Ant-Man, there's been constant talk about a Black Panther movie for years. Wesley Snipes wanted to play him after he wrapped up the Blade movies but so far it hasn't happened. But should it happen after Avengers, I don't see any reason he shouldn't be added to the lineup in future installments. Plus, they've been shoe-horning the character into anything Avengers in the past couple of years, for, ahem, some reason. (Psst, because Black Panther isn't just his name.)
Hercules! Hercules! Hercules! Hey, a Norse god was a hit in theaters, why not a Greco-Roman one? Hercules is as powerful as Thor, has a mace instead of a hammer but drinks a lot more and bangs more women! What's not to love about this God-Gone-Wild?
Luke Cage is a recent addition to the team. He also has had a movie in the works for a while now, rumored to be directed by John Singleton and possibly starring Tyrese Gibson. He's super strong and if he does get his own movie, like Ant-Man and Black Panther, he should be added to The Avengers.
Everyone likes She-Hulk better than The Hulk, don't they? It'd be super easy to work her into the movies' continuity. Super strong party girl/lawyer? Who wouldn't pay $15 to see that in 3D?!
And now a few characters who have no shot in hell of ever appearing on a movie screen... or do they?
The Guardians of the Galaxy... that's right, a team-within-a-team, this pack of futuristic space adventurers joined the team during the Kree/Skrull War so there's your opening! Why wouldn't they had SEVEN more characters into the movie? It worked so well for the Batman franchise.
Starfox is Thanos' brother! See the resemblance? Anyway, he can fly and has super strength, but his real power is his super pheromones which make him irresistible to women. See how that would come in handy during a cosmic super hero space battle? Point against him: Starfox is apparently a well-known video game property, so Marvel would probably want to avoid confusion there. (Yeah, because THAT'S the reason he won't be in the movies!)
Mantis was raised by a group of Kree priests and became a master martial artist, so skilled she could defeat super powered beings, as she is shown here kicking Thor's and The Scarlet Witch's asses... AT THE SAME TIME! She was the "Celestial Madonna" of the Kree's religion and was supposed to give birth to their savior... it's... really complicated. It would probably require its own movie and since Wonder Woman doesn't even have her own, good luck to a Vietnamese, ex-hooker with antennae (that, to my knowledge don't do anything), that runs around barefoot and may or may not have had sex with the android Vision, some cosmic deity and The Silver Surfer. Oh and may or may not have turned evil at one point. Yeah, license to print money, this one is.
After Thanos killed her parents, Thanos' father rescued Heather Douglas and took her to Titan and raised her to become the powerful space telepath Moondragon! So, if when Thanos lands on Earth in the movie and blows a car up with a young girl getting thrown clear, you know where that's leading! I like Moondragon. She's bald and a complete bitch to everyone around her. That adds some spice.
Other than the Silver Surfer, Quasar is probably Marvel's leading cosmic hero. For a while, they were playing him as their answer to Green Lantern. He wears these two quantum bands that grant him loads of energy powers. Other than being cute, though, I've never been that interested in him. He's kinda vanilla. Stick with Ms. Marvel and Photon, Marvel. Even so, I'd say out of all these long shots, he actually has the best shot of ever appearing in a movie, even if it's playing second fiddle to a more successful character like The Silver Surfer.
Jack of Hearts, real name Jack Hart!, was the son of a human father and alien mother and was caught in an experiment that involved some alien super fluid and suit of powerful armor and became of the D-Listiest heroes to ever join the Avengers, where he got blown the fuck up by the insane Scarlet Witch, taking the second Ant-Man, Scott Lang, with him. I think 3D Man has a better shot of starring in a movie, but who knows...
So there are some ideas, Marvel/Joss Whedon! Hope that helps!
The most controversial omission, is of course The Wasp, Janet Van Dyne, one of two founders in the comics that are left out of the movie. Jan's been a constant on the team over the years and even led them. There's really no reason she should have been completely left out and I'm sure the producers will make it up in the sequel. They'd better!
And of course, The Wasp was, in the beginning, the partner of Ant-Man, Hank Pym. There have been constant talk of an Ant-Man movie. Maybe it'll come out after Avengers and lead into his (and The Wasp's) addition to the team in the second movie.
Keep in mind, Hank also used his size-changing powers to become Giant-Man. In case two tiny heroes are too much.
Powerhouse Ms. Marvel gained her powers from the alien Kree, the galactic mortal enemies of The Skrulls. If The Skrulls are in Avengers, couldn't The Kree easily pop up in the sequel?
And Captain Marvel a.k.a. Photon also gained her powers from an alien source. Her energy powers would look fantastic onscreen and would certainly come in handy against a nearly all-powerful alien god!
Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch... okay, not much to do with Thanos or aliens in general, but the mutant speedster and mistress of probability were two of the earliest recruits in the comics and Scarlet Witch in particular has remained a constant on the team over the years. It would be a shame to induct later members before these two stalwarts.
The same goes for SW's husband (ex?), The Vision, who has also been a constant on the team over the years. He doesn't have any specific ties to Thanos, but he SHOULD be in the movies. He and Hank Pym DO have ties to another big Avengers baddie, Ultron... maybe a sequel will feature him. Hmmm?
Black Panther... okay, not going to be very useful against Thanos. He falls in the same category as Black Widow and Hawkeye in terms of power, but like with Ant-Man, there's been constant talk about a Black Panther movie for years. Wesley Snipes wanted to play him after he wrapped up the Blade movies but so far it hasn't happened. But should it happen after Avengers, I don't see any reason he shouldn't be added to the lineup in future installments. Plus, they've been shoe-horning the character into anything Avengers in the past couple of years, for, ahem, some reason. (Psst, because Black Panther isn't just his name.)
Hercules! Hercules! Hercules! Hey, a Norse god was a hit in theaters, why not a Greco-Roman one? Hercules is as powerful as Thor, has a mace instead of a hammer but drinks a lot more and bangs more women! What's not to love about this God-Gone-Wild?
Luke Cage is a recent addition to the team. He also has had a movie in the works for a while now, rumored to be directed by John Singleton and possibly starring Tyrese Gibson. He's super strong and if he does get his own movie, like Ant-Man and Black Panther, he should be added to The Avengers.
Everyone likes She-Hulk better than The Hulk, don't they? It'd be super easy to work her into the movies' continuity. Super strong party girl/lawyer? Who wouldn't pay $15 to see that in 3D?!
And now a few characters who have no shot in hell of ever appearing on a movie screen... or do they?
The Guardians of the Galaxy... that's right, a team-within-a-team, this pack of futuristic space adventurers joined the team during the Kree/Skrull War so there's your opening! Why wouldn't they had SEVEN more characters into the movie? It worked so well for the Batman franchise.
Starfox is Thanos' brother! See the resemblance? Anyway, he can fly and has super strength, but his real power is his super pheromones which make him irresistible to women. See how that would come in handy during a cosmic super hero space battle? Point against him: Starfox is apparently a well-known video game property, so Marvel would probably want to avoid confusion there. (Yeah, because THAT'S the reason he won't be in the movies!)
Mantis was raised by a group of Kree priests and became a master martial artist, so skilled she could defeat super powered beings, as she is shown here kicking Thor's and The Scarlet Witch's asses... AT THE SAME TIME! She was the "Celestial Madonna" of the Kree's religion and was supposed to give birth to their savior... it's... really complicated. It would probably require its own movie and since Wonder Woman doesn't even have her own, good luck to a Vietnamese, ex-hooker with antennae (that, to my knowledge don't do anything), that runs around barefoot and may or may not have had sex with the android Vision, some cosmic deity and The Silver Surfer. Oh and may or may not have turned evil at one point. Yeah, license to print money, this one is.
After Thanos killed her parents, Thanos' father rescued Heather Douglas and took her to Titan and raised her to become the powerful space telepath Moondragon! So, if when Thanos lands on Earth in the movie and blows a car up with a young girl getting thrown clear, you know where that's leading! I like Moondragon. She's bald and a complete bitch to everyone around her. That adds some spice.
Other than the Silver Surfer, Quasar is probably Marvel's leading cosmic hero. For a while, they were playing him as their answer to Green Lantern. He wears these two quantum bands that grant him loads of energy powers. Other than being cute, though, I've never been that interested in him. He's kinda vanilla. Stick with Ms. Marvel and Photon, Marvel. Even so, I'd say out of all these long shots, he actually has the best shot of ever appearing in a movie, even if it's playing second fiddle to a more successful character like The Silver Surfer.
Jack of Hearts, real name Jack Hart!, was the son of a human father and alien mother and was caught in an experiment that involved some alien super fluid and suit of powerful armor and became of the D-Listiest heroes to ever join the Avengers, where he got blown the fuck up by the insane Scarlet Witch, taking the second Ant-Man, Scott Lang, with him. I think 3D Man has a better shot of starring in a movie, but who knows...
So there are some ideas, Marvel/Joss Whedon! Hope that helps!
Friday, May 27, 2011
Avengers Movie SPOILERS?! (And a COOL Wonder Woman Illo)
THIS is Wonder Woman done right! (By joshwmc on Deviant Art.) It's really about as flawless as you can get! The addition of the gladiator skirt pumps up her warrior nature, I love reinterpreting the white stripe on her boots as shin-guards, the leather material looks durable and tough. I realize it isn't as radical a change as the pants and jacket, so if DC were to have gone with this revision, no one would have cared and there wouldn't have been that all-media shitstorm they were so desperately courting when they made the change. But yeah, whether in the comics or in any media adaptation, if they went with this costume, fans would be all on board!
Okay, now for the latest Avengers movie SPOILERS! Well, they're just rumors, but the source is Latino News, and they are almost always RIGHT! So don't read if you don't want to know...
Latino News, for whatever reason, tends to get the hard core scoop on super hero movie news. I find it odd, simply because these movies have like... um, yeah approximately NO Latinos in them. I suppose the argument is that Latinos like super hero movies? That's as good an explanation as I can concoct. So their latest scoop is on the villains in the Avengers movie. The post-credit scene in Thor apparently supports this revelation, but I wouldn't know as I still haven't seen it. But it was semi rumored that the shape-shifting aliens, The Skrulls, would be the involved, as would Thor's brother/enemy Loki.
The Skrulls are riding high after their involvement in Secret Invasion a couple summers ago. They can shape-shift in any way they want. There was this classic Fantastic Four villain, Super Skrull, who also had the ability to mimic all their powers. In Secret Invasion, they created an army of Super Skrulls who could mimic many different super heroes and teams. They also used their abilities to replace a bunch of heroes on Earth and attempt to destroy them from within.
But wait! Apparently, Loki and The Skrulls are just the beginning. The big scoop is that this is all lead up to the REAL big bad...
Thanos! Thanos is probably the most powerful, most cosmic super villain in Marvel Comics. He's their version of Darkseid. When he possesses the Infinity Gauntlet, he can do ANYTHING! He is also in love with Death and uses his abilities to attempt to please her, which always involves killing lots and lots of living beings.
The Infinity Gauntlet DID appear in Thor, so the groundwork is there!
Okay soooooo... that's a whole lotta movie, right there. This is supposed to be less than two hours and you have THREE MAJOR villains?! I wouldn't be surprised if Thanos actually only had a cameo, setting up the inevitable sequel. I can't imagine all three having huge roles in the movie, as in the comics, every time they pop up, the story runs for several issues!
Also, Thanos is way too powerful for THIS Avengers team. Hawkeye and Black Widow have ZERO super powers between them... technically neither does Iron Man, but that suit is powerful enough, but even Captain America isn't like super powerful. He's just slightly tougher than a normal person. To fight Thanos, I mean you need COSMIC level heroes like Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock. Dude with a bow and arrows and chick with wrist gatlings are doomed! I mean this match-up boils down to Thor and Hulk versus Thanos and some cannon fodder.
Which leads back to my idea that Thanos just pops up at the end to tease the sequel. If they are going to survive that battle, The Avengers are going to have to beef up their ranks with some real heavy hitters. My suggestions for Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel (who, if both heroines were used, would definitely go by Photon) are plausible, given there are extraterrestrial origins for both their powers.
Oh man! Wouldn't that be SWEET?!
Okay, now for the latest Avengers movie SPOILERS! Well, they're just rumors, but the source is Latino News, and they are almost always RIGHT! So don't read if you don't want to know...
Latino News, for whatever reason, tends to get the hard core scoop on super hero movie news. I find it odd, simply because these movies have like... um, yeah approximately NO Latinos in them. I suppose the argument is that Latinos like super hero movies? That's as good an explanation as I can concoct. So their latest scoop is on the villains in the Avengers movie. The post-credit scene in Thor apparently supports this revelation, but I wouldn't know as I still haven't seen it. But it was semi rumored that the shape-shifting aliens, The Skrulls, would be the involved, as would Thor's brother/enemy Loki.
The Skrulls are riding high after their involvement in Secret Invasion a couple summers ago. They can shape-shift in any way they want. There was this classic Fantastic Four villain, Super Skrull, who also had the ability to mimic all their powers. In Secret Invasion, they created an army of Super Skrulls who could mimic many different super heroes and teams. They also used their abilities to replace a bunch of heroes on Earth and attempt to destroy them from within.
But wait! Apparently, Loki and The Skrulls are just the beginning. The big scoop is that this is all lead up to the REAL big bad...
Thanos! Thanos is probably the most powerful, most cosmic super villain in Marvel Comics. He's their version of Darkseid. When he possesses the Infinity Gauntlet, he can do ANYTHING! He is also in love with Death and uses his abilities to attempt to please her, which always involves killing lots and lots of living beings.
The Infinity Gauntlet DID appear in Thor, so the groundwork is there!
Okay soooooo... that's a whole lotta movie, right there. This is supposed to be less than two hours and you have THREE MAJOR villains?! I wouldn't be surprised if Thanos actually only had a cameo, setting up the inevitable sequel. I can't imagine all three having huge roles in the movie, as in the comics, every time they pop up, the story runs for several issues!
Also, Thanos is way too powerful for THIS Avengers team. Hawkeye and Black Widow have ZERO super powers between them... technically neither does Iron Man, but that suit is powerful enough, but even Captain America isn't like super powerful. He's just slightly tougher than a normal person. To fight Thanos, I mean you need COSMIC level heroes like Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock. Dude with a bow and arrows and chick with wrist gatlings are doomed! I mean this match-up boils down to Thor and Hulk versus Thanos and some cannon fodder.
Which leads back to my idea that Thanos just pops up at the end to tease the sequel. If they are going to survive that battle, The Avengers are going to have to beef up their ranks with some real heavy hitters. My suggestions for Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel (who, if both heroines were used, would definitely go by Photon) are plausible, given there are extraterrestrial origins for both their powers.
Oh man! Wouldn't that be SWEET?!
Thursday, May 26, 2011
Hunger Games - Lenny Kravitz Cast
As you may have noticed, I am ditching the normal daily "themes" this week, for no real reason, other than I don't have anything to say on those subjects. I mean, I'm sure as hell not writing a "Tune In Tuesday" about Lady GaGa's Born This Way album. Yeah, I said it! (I will plug NKOTBSB's "Mashup" from their album. Download it! It's six minutes of pure boyband delish!)
So anyway, the one bit of news I want to plug is Lenny Kravitz's casting as Cinna in The Hunger Games!
Apparently, he won this role after a terrific turn in Precious Based On The Book Push By Sapphire. (Is that title fer serious?) I have never, nor will I probably ever, see Precious Based On The Book Push By Sapphire, because I know it's hella DE! PRESS!! ING!!! But he played a nurse in it and... I guess was good at it.
I'm okay with this casting. I like Lenny Kravitz. He's one of the few rock artists whose work I enjoy. He seems very chill and cool which Cinna is also. Cinna is VERY clearly in the book described as caucasian with short brown hair and green eyes (which he accentuates with gold eye shadow). But there is something comforting about Lenny Kravitz. No wonder he can get into any pants he wants. I'm okay with this! Cinna is probably the fifth most important character in the books, after the three young leads and Haymitch, so this was one of those announcements I was really on the edge of my seat over and I am quite satisfied!
So anyway, the one bit of news I want to plug is Lenny Kravitz's casting as Cinna in The Hunger Games!
Apparently, he won this role after a terrific turn in Precious Based On The Book Push By Sapphire. (Is that title fer serious?) I have never, nor will I probably ever, see Precious Based On The Book Push By Sapphire, because I know it's hella DE! PRESS!! ING!!! But he played a nurse in it and... I guess was good at it.
I'm okay with this casting. I like Lenny Kravitz. He's one of the few rock artists whose work I enjoy. He seems very chill and cool which Cinna is also. Cinna is VERY clearly in the book described as caucasian with short brown hair and green eyes (which he accentuates with gold eye shadow). But there is something comforting about Lenny Kravitz. No wonder he can get into any pants he wants. I'm okay with this! Cinna is probably the fifth most important character in the books, after the three young leads and Haymitch, so this was one of those announcements I was really on the edge of my seat over and I am quite satisfied!
Wednesday, May 25, 2011
Hawkward Video + Probably The Last I Have To Say About the Wonder Woman Show
Here's a funny video I saw on Topless Robot:
I think I'm secretly just thankful that the subject wasn't Aquaman. I feel that Hawkman's frustration was deserved, though, because really... when you think about it, there are probably like five GODAWFUL super hero movies for every one good one!
But anyhoo... I think this image came out when I was visiting back home, so I didn't get a chance to post it:
It's, of course, Adrianne Palicki as Wonder Woman, wearing a suit that much more closely resembles the classic suit from the comics. You know what? It still doesn't please me and it really boils down to that is some ugly ass, cheap looking, pleather garbage! That's IT! That is really all that ruins it. Remember how pleased everyone was with the revelation that they'd swapped out the shiny pants for normal-looking fabric pants? But still unhappy with the bodice? That's it! That was the huge error. The fabric choice.
Also, the more I see it, I hate the bust line. It just looks like she's about to pop out at any second. Even if she doesn't have straps, this is just TOO low-cut. I really don't see how Adrianne stays modest in it!
Also, why is Powder there?
I think I'm secretly just thankful that the subject wasn't Aquaman. I feel that Hawkman's frustration was deserved, though, because really... when you think about it, there are probably like five GODAWFUL super hero movies for every one good one!
But anyhoo... I think this image came out when I was visiting back home, so I didn't get a chance to post it:
It's, of course, Adrianne Palicki as Wonder Woman, wearing a suit that much more closely resembles the classic suit from the comics. You know what? It still doesn't please me and it really boils down to that is some ugly ass, cheap looking, pleather garbage! That's IT! That is really all that ruins it. Remember how pleased everyone was with the revelation that they'd swapped out the shiny pants for normal-looking fabric pants? But still unhappy with the bodice? That's it! That was the huge error. The fabric choice.
Also, the more I see it, I hate the bust line. It just looks like she's about to pop out at any second. Even if she doesn't have straps, this is just TOO low-cut. I really don't see how Adrianne stays modest in it!
Also, why is Powder there?
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Hero Fashion File - Robin Through The Ages
This is something new. I've kind of done similar stuff in the past, looking at a character's past and showing different costumes and such, but I want to take a purely sartorial approach to various characters' looks over the ages and for whatever reason, Robin has been on my mind lately.
Robin, a.k.a. orphaned circus trapeze artist, Dick Grayson, was taken in by wealthy Bruce Wayne, secretly, crime fighter Batman and became his sidekick-- the first ever!-- Robin the Boy Wonder. What most people don't realize today is that Robin was modeled after Robin Hood, not the bird. (Batman himself was heavily influenced by Zorro.) Knowing this, you can pick out certain medieval influences in Robin's costume, the loose-fitting tunic, the color green and the use of chain mail (on his trunks).
Up to this point, comics, even super hero books, were pretty dark and pulpy. Robin was meant to give kids a character they could project themselves upon and someone who would lighten the dark mood of the book. Comics are a visual medium and super heroes were meant to pop off the page, thus his bold color scheme, red, yellow and green. (Just as a note, Batman's costume was originally conceived of as being black and RED!)
The short pants and pixie boots are dated today, but it was a more innocent time and they were supposed to serve as shorthand to convey his youthful nature.
It's hard to imagine now when super heroes change suits every time they get a new artist and some characters actually wear multiple suits for different occasions, but back in the day, they had one look and they didn't deviate from that! Robin kept the same suit up until the 80s, even after his short shorts became kind of awkward for readers.
I don't think it was ever specified what those notches on his tunic are. I always interpreted them as snaps or buttons, but on the 1960s Batman show, as portrayed by Burt Ward, they were laces. Ward, being an adult, wore white/flash tone tights rather than going bare-legged. The suit pretty much looked exactly as it did in the comics, the only other exception being his shorts were fabric and not chain mail.
Also, interestingly, the shorts of Ward's TV costume are actually part of a leotard with the green sleeves as part of that and the red portion of his tunic as a separate "vest." This was also the way George Perez rendered the costume in The New Teen Titans in the 80s. I'm not sure whether it was Ward who started it or not, but earlier, Robin had worn his hair with two spit curls in the front, but by the late 60s had started parting it to the side, which is how it remained for decades.
In the late 60s, comics were being revitalized with more grounded, gritty, realistic storylines. Wonder Woman lost her powers temporarily and Superman's were significantly reduced. The concept of a teen sidekick, especially in such a vibrant outfit, seemed outdated, so Dick Grayson went off to college and Bruce Wayne moved out of Stately Wayne Manor into an urban penthouse, and the books took on a darker tone. Robin continued operating, either solo or alongside Batgirl or the Teen Titans. However, he was back at Batman's side on the 1973 animated series, Super Friends. The main change that was wrought was switching out his "elf shoes" for a pair of winged boots. I don't really know why this change was made, but it was.
In one Justice League story, it was revealed that on a parallel world, Batman, who'd begun fighting crime in the 30s had since retired and that this world's Robin had taken over as guardian of Gotham City. Although he kept the name Robin, he adopted a very Batman-inspired costume, grey union suit, navy glove, boots and trunks and even the same yellow utility belt. He deviated by wearing a finned version of his domino mask, but no cowl, a yellow-lined cape with flared collar and his logo was a bat-winged R in a circle.
When the "real" Robin's suit was wrecked, this alternate reality Robin gave him a spare costume which... uh, kinda sucked. It more closely resembled the classic Robin suit, with a red form fitting shirt with off-center R logo over his heart, but no buttons/snaps/laces/whatever they were. Also, the shirt is solid red, no green sleeves. Green gloves and more traditional super hero boots and trunks. But yellow TIGHTS? It's just too much! The Earth 2 Robin (the older one) eventually wound up wearing this suit full time and then he died. I think Karl Lagerfeld killed him.
In a surprising twist, in 1980, Robin joined the NEW Teen Titans. Over the 70s, Robin had developed into a smart, confident solo hero. Gone was the "laughing boy daredevil" of his early years. In fact, this Robin grappled with frustration at constantly being viewed as Batman's kid sidekick. This led to him adopting his own identity, Nightwing. In a suit designed by George Perez, the new suit was sleek and sexy, in bold two-toned blue with gold "feather" trim. Though dated now, the high collar and V-neck were meant to add sex appeal as Grayson, under Perez's pen, had developed into quite a sex symbol to readers. His mask is now in a scalloped "wing" style and all his gadgets previously stored in his utility belt were now concealed in those two wrist bands.
The V-neck went out of style quickly, so his suit was redesigned. This version eliminated most of the light blue, relegating them to the gloves and boots. The yellow was intensified, with the addition of "glider wings." The previous version professed to keep his various gadgets in his wrist bands, but this suit had a full-on utility belt. Oh PS, he traded V-neck for mullet... so... seriously, DOWNGRADE!
Eventually, he was redesigned again and cut that damn mullet. This new suit ditches the yellow entirely, with a solid navy suit and a stylized light blue chevron design that runs up his arms and forms a jagged V. The utility belt is once again swapped out for compartmentalized wrist and now calf bands.
On Batman: The Animated Series, he wore a variation of this suit, but rather than a nondescript chevron, his suit forms a bird silhouette with notched "feathers" on bottom. Kept that goddamn mullet, though.
For some reason, in DC Universe Online, which is supposed to be based on the comics, they reincorporated the bird motif from the Animated Series, but mashed up with his actual current comic book costume.
Since Dick Grayson became Nightwing, DC wanted a new Robin, so Jason Todd was introduced as his lookalike replacement. He wore Robin's "classic" suit, right down to the spit curls... but not before trying out this hot mess:
Shades of that Earth 2 costume! ACTUALLY, this isn't too far off from the next longest running Robin suit, but I think that silly jagged neckline design just kills it. To differentiate him from Dick Grayson, Jason Todd was given a "hip" streetwise persona... which of course was SUPER annoying, so fans voted that DC kill him off. (Or maybe Karl Lagerfeld came back and polished him off for that second suit.)
Meanwhile in a parallel universe, in what was essentially DC's first Elseworlds tale, in The Dark Knight Returns, a 50+ year-old Batman takes on a new Robin, Carrie Kelly, a spunky and resourceful teen girl. She suits up in the classic Robin suit which remarkably actually works pretty well on a girl! The only real modification was swapping out Dick Grayson's domino mask for green tinted shades, which when you think about it, adds an extra layer of protection to one's eyes, so good idea!
Back in the real DCU, once again, Batman was Robin-less and after Jason Todd had been beaten to death by The Joker, wasn't keen on taking on a new sidekick. Enter child prodigy Tim Drake, who figured out on his own that Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson were Batman and Nightwing (and that Grayson was formerly Robin). Tim insisted that Batman needed a Robin, as sans one, he'd become more and more violent and reckless. At first, he tried to convince Dick Grayson to put those tiny green scaled shorts back on... not that I blame him there, wink!
But when that failed, he put the suit on himself. But by this point, everyone agreed that the classic suit was outdated, so he then gained this modern suit, designed by Neal Adams. The red tunic is swapped out for a red leotard over green tights. The loose green sleeves are still there, but now have compartments for various Bat-gizmos, as do his green gloves. Since this suit sports green tights, his practical boots were colored black and originally featured a ninja-style split between the big toe and... the rest of the toes. And in a nice update that stays true to the classic, his cape is still yellow... just on the inside. The outside is black, making for a more practical cloak for covert ops.
Chris O'Donnell wore a pretty full-on adaptation of this suit in Batman Forever. Like Batman in the live-action films, the suit was rendered as more a suit of armor with musculature molded in than a cloth suit. The biggest change, I think was making his suit long-sleeved and giving him black gloves with fins like Batman's.
In his second outing as Robin in Batman & Robin, O'Donnell donned a suit modeled after that worn by Nightwing, a black suit with chevron stripe almost identical to that worn by the adult Dick Grayson in the comics, except rendered in red versus light blue, since the character was still Robin in the movie.
Since this movie was made for the sole purpose of selling toys (I'm. Not. Joking.), they gave each character multiple costumes. As shitty as this movie was, I can't hate much on the costumes, codpieces and nipples aside. I think this black and silver number is pretty snazzy!
The design of this suit is pretty close to the black and red one, but whereas the first suit is all black with just the red chevron, there's a lot more silver on this one. Ahem, what was I saying about codpieces?
On the Teen Titans cartoon, Robin appeared in what is basically Tim Drake's suit, but minus the shorts and more hardware on his boots. His belt is also more detailed.
The role of Robin in the comics was briefly filled by Stephanie Brown, formerly known as The Spoiler. Her suit's was virtually identical to Tim Drakes, but with a skirt instead of trunks and the addition of a red headband. Currently, Stephanie maintains a role in the Batverse as the newest Batgirl.
On Batman: The Animated Series, they used Dick Grayson as Robin, but dressed him in Tim Drake's costume. Toward the end of the series, Dick became Nightwing and Tim Drake was brought in as the new Robin, but the producers felt the need to give him a new costume to differentiate him from Dick. With its black and red color scheme, this suit seems to be more based on the bird robin than Robin Hood.
There really is NO reference to Robin Hood... in a bold move, they've removed all the green from his costume and it is pretty much form-fitting, so no loose tunic. No chain mail, either.
And DC always makes their comic book characters dress like they do on whatever cartoon version of them is airing at the time, so Tim Drake in the comics quickly adopted this look in the books. The only real difference is it's more detailed, especially the pouches on his belt and the Batman fins on the gloves.
On the current Young Justice cartoon, Dick Grayson appears as Robin, returning to his "laughing boy daredevil" persona. His suit resembles this Tim Drake costume, but like Teen Titans, they've added a lot of detailing and hardware. Rather than wearing trunks, like in the comics, they've added two red strips on his thighs that resemble the flaps of the classic Robin tunic.
In his legendary miniseries Kingdom Come, painter Alex Ross depicted a dystopian futuristic version of the DC Universe. In this future, Dick Grayson had reverted to his Robin identity with a tweak, he was now Red Robin. His suit was heavily based on the movie version of Batman's, especially with the molded cowl and I think the boots are identical. He retains a bit of his Robin-ness, though with the return of a red tunic (no green, still). In addition to his utility belt, he's added two bandoleers that converge in a new Robin logo featuring a bird silhouette.
In the comics, Tim Drake has since adopted the name and costume Red Robin. Even though hislover best friend Superboy says he's "not a cowl guy."
When Bruce Wayne was believed to be dead, Dick Grayson took on the role of Batman, donning a slightly modified version of the suit, with a more stylized belt and sturdier wrist gauntlets. He took on Bruce Wayne's illegitimate son Damian as his Robin. Damian's Robin suit features a black bodysuit, with the red tunic over it. No green sleeves, but green gloves, like Batman's featuring sturdy wrist gauntlets and green Doc Martens with red laces. His belt is black with a yellow buckle and his short two-tone cape features a hood.
That brings us up to date on the comic looks of Robin, but I wanted to add one more that was featured in a recent art book released featuring the work of Alex Ross. This is an update he envisioned for Robin that DC (wisely in my opinion) passed on. He returns the green chain mail armor from the original trunks, but this time makes it more like a full-on suit of medieval armor, definitely bringing to mind Robin Hood instead of the bird. Whereas other revamps have ditched the green in favor of black, Ross has done the opposite, making the suit almost entirely green. His cloak is described as being made of a fabric that sort of changes tones depending on lighting, so it can look green sometimes and yellow at others. The boots are a nice homage to the character's original pixie boots. But overall, I just plain don't like this suit. The green is a sickly pea tone and it's overwhelming! And how acrobatic is he supposed to be in chail mail from the neck down? And honestly, it comes across as VERY old-fashioned. So like I said, DC was probably wise to pass on it.
So there we have it, a look at Robin(s) through the ages!
Robin, a.k.a. orphaned circus trapeze artist, Dick Grayson, was taken in by wealthy Bruce Wayne, secretly, crime fighter Batman and became his sidekick-- the first ever!-- Robin the Boy Wonder. What most people don't realize today is that Robin was modeled after Robin Hood, not the bird. (Batman himself was heavily influenced by Zorro.) Knowing this, you can pick out certain medieval influences in Robin's costume, the loose-fitting tunic, the color green and the use of chain mail (on his trunks).
Up to this point, comics, even super hero books, were pretty dark and pulpy. Robin was meant to give kids a character they could project themselves upon and someone who would lighten the dark mood of the book. Comics are a visual medium and super heroes were meant to pop off the page, thus his bold color scheme, red, yellow and green. (Just as a note, Batman's costume was originally conceived of as being black and RED!)
The short pants and pixie boots are dated today, but it was a more innocent time and they were supposed to serve as shorthand to convey his youthful nature.
It's hard to imagine now when super heroes change suits every time they get a new artist and some characters actually wear multiple suits for different occasions, but back in the day, they had one look and they didn't deviate from that! Robin kept the same suit up until the 80s, even after his short shorts became kind of awkward for readers.
I don't think it was ever specified what those notches on his tunic are. I always interpreted them as snaps or buttons, but on the 1960s Batman show, as portrayed by Burt Ward, they were laces. Ward, being an adult, wore white/flash tone tights rather than going bare-legged. The suit pretty much looked exactly as it did in the comics, the only other exception being his shorts were fabric and not chain mail.
Also, interestingly, the shorts of Ward's TV costume are actually part of a leotard with the green sleeves as part of that and the red portion of his tunic as a separate "vest." This was also the way George Perez rendered the costume in The New Teen Titans in the 80s. I'm not sure whether it was Ward who started it or not, but earlier, Robin had worn his hair with two spit curls in the front, but by the late 60s had started parting it to the side, which is how it remained for decades.
In the late 60s, comics were being revitalized with more grounded, gritty, realistic storylines. Wonder Woman lost her powers temporarily and Superman's were significantly reduced. The concept of a teen sidekick, especially in such a vibrant outfit, seemed outdated, so Dick Grayson went off to college and Bruce Wayne moved out of Stately Wayne Manor into an urban penthouse, and the books took on a darker tone. Robin continued operating, either solo or alongside Batgirl or the Teen Titans. However, he was back at Batman's side on the 1973 animated series, Super Friends. The main change that was wrought was switching out his "elf shoes" for a pair of winged boots. I don't really know why this change was made, but it was.
In one Justice League story, it was revealed that on a parallel world, Batman, who'd begun fighting crime in the 30s had since retired and that this world's Robin had taken over as guardian of Gotham City. Although he kept the name Robin, he adopted a very Batman-inspired costume, grey union suit, navy glove, boots and trunks and even the same yellow utility belt. He deviated by wearing a finned version of his domino mask, but no cowl, a yellow-lined cape with flared collar and his logo was a bat-winged R in a circle.
When the "real" Robin's suit was wrecked, this alternate reality Robin gave him a spare costume which... uh, kinda sucked. It more closely resembled the classic Robin suit, with a red form fitting shirt with off-center R logo over his heart, but no buttons/snaps/laces/whatever they were. Also, the shirt is solid red, no green sleeves. Green gloves and more traditional super hero boots and trunks. But yellow TIGHTS? It's just too much! The Earth 2 Robin (the older one) eventually wound up wearing this suit full time and then he died. I think Karl Lagerfeld killed him.
In a surprising twist, in 1980, Robin joined the NEW Teen Titans. Over the 70s, Robin had developed into a smart, confident solo hero. Gone was the "laughing boy daredevil" of his early years. In fact, this Robin grappled with frustration at constantly being viewed as Batman's kid sidekick. This led to him adopting his own identity, Nightwing. In a suit designed by George Perez, the new suit was sleek and sexy, in bold two-toned blue with gold "feather" trim. Though dated now, the high collar and V-neck were meant to add sex appeal as Grayson, under Perez's pen, had developed into quite a sex symbol to readers. His mask is now in a scalloped "wing" style and all his gadgets previously stored in his utility belt were now concealed in those two wrist bands.
The V-neck went out of style quickly, so his suit was redesigned. This version eliminated most of the light blue, relegating them to the gloves and boots. The yellow was intensified, with the addition of "glider wings." The previous version professed to keep his various gadgets in his wrist bands, but this suit had a full-on utility belt. Oh PS, he traded V-neck for mullet... so... seriously, DOWNGRADE!
Eventually, he was redesigned again and cut that damn mullet. This new suit ditches the yellow entirely, with a solid navy suit and a stylized light blue chevron design that runs up his arms and forms a jagged V. The utility belt is once again swapped out for compartmentalized wrist and now calf bands.
On Batman: The Animated Series, he wore a variation of this suit, but rather than a nondescript chevron, his suit forms a bird silhouette with notched "feathers" on bottom. Kept that goddamn mullet, though.
For some reason, in DC Universe Online, which is supposed to be based on the comics, they reincorporated the bird motif from the Animated Series, but mashed up with his actual current comic book costume.
Since Dick Grayson became Nightwing, DC wanted a new Robin, so Jason Todd was introduced as his lookalike replacement. He wore Robin's "classic" suit, right down to the spit curls... but not before trying out this hot mess:
Shades of that Earth 2 costume! ACTUALLY, this isn't too far off from the next longest running Robin suit, but I think that silly jagged neckline design just kills it. To differentiate him from Dick Grayson, Jason Todd was given a "hip" streetwise persona... which of course was SUPER annoying, so fans voted that DC kill him off. (Or maybe Karl Lagerfeld came back and polished him off for that second suit.)
Meanwhile in a parallel universe, in what was essentially DC's first Elseworlds tale, in The Dark Knight Returns, a 50+ year-old Batman takes on a new Robin, Carrie Kelly, a spunky and resourceful teen girl. She suits up in the classic Robin suit which remarkably actually works pretty well on a girl! The only real modification was swapping out Dick Grayson's domino mask for green tinted shades, which when you think about it, adds an extra layer of protection to one's eyes, so good idea!
Back in the real DCU, once again, Batman was Robin-less and after Jason Todd had been beaten to death by The Joker, wasn't keen on taking on a new sidekick. Enter child prodigy Tim Drake, who figured out on his own that Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson were Batman and Nightwing (and that Grayson was formerly Robin). Tim insisted that Batman needed a Robin, as sans one, he'd become more and more violent and reckless. At first, he tried to convince Dick Grayson to put those tiny green scaled shorts back on... not that I blame him there, wink!
But when that failed, he put the suit on himself. But by this point, everyone agreed that the classic suit was outdated, so he then gained this modern suit, designed by Neal Adams. The red tunic is swapped out for a red leotard over green tights. The loose green sleeves are still there, but now have compartments for various Bat-gizmos, as do his green gloves. Since this suit sports green tights, his practical boots were colored black and originally featured a ninja-style split between the big toe and... the rest of the toes. And in a nice update that stays true to the classic, his cape is still yellow... just on the inside. The outside is black, making for a more practical cloak for covert ops.
Chris O'Donnell wore a pretty full-on adaptation of this suit in Batman Forever. Like Batman in the live-action films, the suit was rendered as more a suit of armor with musculature molded in than a cloth suit. The biggest change, I think was making his suit long-sleeved and giving him black gloves with fins like Batman's.
In his second outing as Robin in Batman & Robin, O'Donnell donned a suit modeled after that worn by Nightwing, a black suit with chevron stripe almost identical to that worn by the adult Dick Grayson in the comics, except rendered in red versus light blue, since the character was still Robin in the movie.
Since this movie was made for the sole purpose of selling toys (I'm. Not. Joking.), they gave each character multiple costumes. As shitty as this movie was, I can't hate much on the costumes, codpieces and nipples aside. I think this black and silver number is pretty snazzy!
The design of this suit is pretty close to the black and red one, but whereas the first suit is all black with just the red chevron, there's a lot more silver on this one. Ahem, what was I saying about codpieces?
On the Teen Titans cartoon, Robin appeared in what is basically Tim Drake's suit, but minus the shorts and more hardware on his boots. His belt is also more detailed.
The role of Robin in the comics was briefly filled by Stephanie Brown, formerly known as The Spoiler. Her suit's was virtually identical to Tim Drakes, but with a skirt instead of trunks and the addition of a red headband. Currently, Stephanie maintains a role in the Batverse as the newest Batgirl.
On Batman: The Animated Series, they used Dick Grayson as Robin, but dressed him in Tim Drake's costume. Toward the end of the series, Dick became Nightwing and Tim Drake was brought in as the new Robin, but the producers felt the need to give him a new costume to differentiate him from Dick. With its black and red color scheme, this suit seems to be more based on the bird robin than Robin Hood.
There really is NO reference to Robin Hood... in a bold move, they've removed all the green from his costume and it is pretty much form-fitting, so no loose tunic. No chain mail, either.
And DC always makes their comic book characters dress like they do on whatever cartoon version of them is airing at the time, so Tim Drake in the comics quickly adopted this look in the books. The only real difference is it's more detailed, especially the pouches on his belt and the Batman fins on the gloves.
On the current Young Justice cartoon, Dick Grayson appears as Robin, returning to his "laughing boy daredevil" persona. His suit resembles this Tim Drake costume, but like Teen Titans, they've added a lot of detailing and hardware. Rather than wearing trunks, like in the comics, they've added two red strips on his thighs that resemble the flaps of the classic Robin tunic.
In his legendary miniseries Kingdom Come, painter Alex Ross depicted a dystopian futuristic version of the DC Universe. In this future, Dick Grayson had reverted to his Robin identity with a tweak, he was now Red Robin. His suit was heavily based on the movie version of Batman's, especially with the molded cowl and I think the boots are identical. He retains a bit of his Robin-ness, though with the return of a red tunic (no green, still). In addition to his utility belt, he's added two bandoleers that converge in a new Robin logo featuring a bird silhouette.
In the comics, Tim Drake has since adopted the name and costume Red Robin. Even though his
When Bruce Wayne was believed to be dead, Dick Grayson took on the role of Batman, donning a slightly modified version of the suit, with a more stylized belt and sturdier wrist gauntlets. He took on Bruce Wayne's illegitimate son Damian as his Robin. Damian's Robin suit features a black bodysuit, with the red tunic over it. No green sleeves, but green gloves, like Batman's featuring sturdy wrist gauntlets and green Doc Martens with red laces. His belt is black with a yellow buckle and his short two-tone cape features a hood.
That brings us up to date on the comic looks of Robin, but I wanted to add one more that was featured in a recent art book released featuring the work of Alex Ross. This is an update he envisioned for Robin that DC (wisely in my opinion) passed on. He returns the green chain mail armor from the original trunks, but this time makes it more like a full-on suit of medieval armor, definitely bringing to mind Robin Hood instead of the bird. Whereas other revamps have ditched the green in favor of black, Ross has done the opposite, making the suit almost entirely green. His cloak is described as being made of a fabric that sort of changes tones depending on lighting, so it can look green sometimes and yellow at others. The boots are a nice homage to the character's original pixie boots. But overall, I just plain don't like this suit. The green is a sickly pea tone and it's overwhelming! And how acrobatic is he supposed to be in chail mail from the neck down? And honestly, it comes across as VERY old-fashioned. So like I said, DC was probably wise to pass on it.
So there we have it, a look at Robin(s) through the ages!
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